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« on: December 09, 2008, 05:10:43 PM »

So, I'm trying to learn Sarus, obviously, and I was wondering how do you pronounce words like Dor, Dom, Dof
Are they Do-ruh, Do-Muh, Do-fuh.  Which makes them easy to pronounce but doesn't follow the rule of dropping the last vowel.
However if you DO drop the last vowel they are significantly harder pronounce, unless I'm pronouncing them wrong.
Do-ur (almost like door, but if pronounced as door it violates the Prime syllable rule), Do-m (not so hard, pronounced like dome), and Do-uf (which sounds like there's a W in the middle, dowuf)

How do I pronounce these?
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2008, 01:23:34 PM »

I didnt know you were supposed to pronounce "dom" as "dome". I've been saying it like the name Adam (a-dom), or freedom (free-dom).
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2008, 04:21:32 PM »

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Prime syllable
Here is the pronunciation key for the seven syllables when used as a word’s first syllable:

Do – pronounced ‘doe’ (yes.. a deer)
Re – pronounced ‘ray’
Mi – pronounced ‘mee’
Fa – pronounced ‘faa’
So – pronounced ‘so’
La – pronounced ‘laa’
Ti – pronounced ‘tee’

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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2008, 06:05:52 AM »

Well, this is where languages get all icky. around pronunciation. However, I think Adam has said something about pronunciation and spelling, and that if you have a word, soruf (black) for example. You can put any letter between s,r, and f as long as it is not d, r, m, f,s,l, or t, because this could be potentially misread as a word. So saraf is the same as soruf, and suraf is also the same as soruf.
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2008, 07:22:41 AM »

so it can be pronounced/written any way as long as the prime syllable is determinable as well as the skeleton of the word itself?
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2008, 01:51:00 PM »

Yes, I think it said something about that on the lessons page, but if you're speaking it, it would get confusing if sosur, sasper, sisenner, susor, sasar, and anything else containing ssr meant "nose".
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2008, 03:02:01 PM »

everyone's right about the pronunciation and to answer Bugaloo's question, there's no need to actually pronounce 'doe', 'ray', etc. Don't let pronunciation "rules" get in the way.. just pronounce simply like:

dod
dor
dom
dof
dol
dos
dot

red
rek
rem
ref
res
rel
ret

etc. Wink
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2008, 03:51:36 PM »

Thanks, Adam!  Grin
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I want to get my friend to learn it so we can communicate in public about anything without anyone else knowing, hahah. I'd feel so sneaky  Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2009, 03:14:32 PM »

Of course, this then comes to the question of why is it "Sarus" and not "Sorus"? If you went strictly by the rules, it should be "Solrus."
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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2009, 08:24:44 PM »

There's no Sol syllable in Sarus. That's a syllable of Solresol.
"Sol" never made it into Sarus because the extra 'l' has the potential to confuse with 'la'. Instead we use "So".

As for 'Sarus' rather than 'Sorus', you're right, the correct pronunciation is 'sorus'. However to be perfectly honest, I was looking for a word that had a good unique sound. Sarus to me sounded better than Sorus. As an extra excuse, remember that the only characters that really matter are d, r, m, f, s, l, t. Therefore sarus, sorus, soreass, sureas, sirius, serious.. they all contain the letters 'srs' in the correct order and correct number. There's no right way to "Anglicise" a Sarus word, except to ensure the correct order and quantity of Sarus characters.

south of it raff Wink
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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2009, 05:26:41 PM »

Oh Man i just started this like fifteen minutes ago and i am overwhelmed but the awesomeness of it all just keeps pulling me in.
Ok so with the whole issue of it doesnt matter how you spell it thing mess up the pronunciation?
So

Dr could be dar or even daran?
please im extremely confused....
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2009, 08:24:46 PM »

If I understand correctly, as far as spelling/writing goes it doesn't matter what vowels and/or non-sarus consonants you add to a word, it will still mean the same.

However, for pronunciation it does matter that you pronounce the first syllable with the "identifying" sound (see the list Bugaloo posted), and that you pronounce the other syllables with an "uh" sound (as in the e in writer). However, I imagine you could have "dialects" which insert other syllables into the word composed of non-sarus consonants and vowels (eg. tiises means blood, but in some dialect tiikohses would mean the same (and then you could write that as tiikohses or tukasis or whatever you want)).

Though I'm not really sure about those dialects, but that's just what I figured, I think if it only obscures  the meaning of a word but doesn't change what it means/makes it uncertain (as in it "hides" the meaning but doesn't change it), it would be fine.
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