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« Reply #510 on: December 31, 2009, 02:32:20 PM »

Thanks a ton!!! Im glad to you like it. I havent heard back from my friend yet hoping to get some feedback from him soon.

I can see how Andrews work is greatly increased with sharpens and clarity useing painter. I used it on my friends computer today and one thing that painter has is the Lasso tool actully works kind of vectorish unlike the lasso tool in photoshop which sucks to know.... Its cool just sucks that Photoshop doesnt have that. even just as a button option. The pattern tool that Andrew uses too is like a effing super star brush for shape sifting with the ability to create such random shapes ... and photoshops Is so random it looses its affect greatly. For instance if you drag along with the patern tool in Corel you dont see the edges and it continues on in the direction your painting but if you curve your brush stroke with the patern tool in photoshop it doesnt fallow. If only again in photoshop you could use some illustrator techniques to make the brush flows much more exciting and intrequing. As an overall I still do not want to use corel so im thinking of having my friend throw a few stroked brushes with the pattern tool so I can use them as brushes in photoshop and fake the effect. har har har!!!!
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« Reply #511 on: January 01, 2010, 06:40:45 AM »

Hello! I was looking at the sasquatch you did and I like the texture of his fur a lot but I felt that some of the construction wasn't as strong as it could have been. One thing I noticed was the upper arm muscles, bicep and tricep were aligned with each other. One trick for drawing almost anything organic is that it ususally follows a rhythm that I've drawn on the image below. Another thing I thought would have made this a stronger drawing is the use of a stronger silohuette to help get the feeling of the character and have a better amount of negative space. Also please try and keep the hands in as much as possible. They are the second thing we look at after the face and are capable at showing so much character/emotion/story. Look at the stuff done by the Great Masters to see the different things you can do with hands, it's really helped me!!


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« Reply #512 on: January 03, 2010, 07:06:22 PM »

thanks for the crit. I was not asked to make the design in a pose where he would be jumping around or anything. Althought I agree with what your saying and would have liked to do the picture like that ... the client gets what they desire and thats that.

This has been in my mind for a while just took the time to get it done today.

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« Reply #513 on: January 04, 2010, 01:08:56 AM »

Excellent! I love the colors, they make the tree look so much more vibrant in contrast with the background.
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« Reply #514 on: January 04, 2010, 04:43:01 AM »

Indeed I really tried to emphasise the complimentary color in this one. I also tried making lots of lines work there way to lines that point back in space to the tree. I guess one little thing I didnt think about that would have maybe been better was to make the triangles lead pointing in but they just warped around the edge so nicely and it does kind of help push your eyes back when you hit the largest triangle at the peak.
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« Reply #515 on: January 04, 2010, 06:18:13 AM »

I'dd be carefull with using purely neutral gray, it usually looks artificial, adding a touch of color to it goes a long way. You can also paint in subtle temperature shifts ( saturation and hue changes, but no value changes ) so the colors start looking more vibrant.

Is there a religious backstory to this piece, like the tree or wisdom or something? Because of the triangular composition and the church in the background.

I tried something with the colors.
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« Reply #516 on: January 04, 2010, 06:20:10 AM »

I really love the reflective floor! It looks so pristine! And definitely able to eat off of!
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« Reply #517 on: January 04, 2010, 11:22:35 AM »



I really like these. Great work as always!  Smiley
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« Reply #518 on: January 04, 2010, 11:30:01 AM »

Thanks alot guys. Yeah pieter I like how that looks. Is that just an overlay? The thing is in my mind the gray is supposed to represent a feeling of loss. Something so beauitful and colorful (very much so like a last tree of life) sitting in a place of once worship almost like a faded memory. (fictional memory) You remember the exact statue that in the center of a roman town square but with time the city that lays around that memory has become faded and lost ... diluted. In an emotional feeling this painting is really a representation for me where church has gone too these days and how unlike tribes of indigenous cultures there are no more celebrations for the simple great things in life ... Nature one of the biggest things that gives us life hense a tree being the main focus in this curch like cathedral. When I was tiling the floor I considered making the tiles look colorful too but In the end I really wanted to make this Simple and straight forward. At the same time I tried using things like jason manley had talked about with compostions video ... Lines in space that direct your eye ... empashis , economy, varitey... I even tried to make the painting have an overall controled amount of darks lights and midtones to also pull your eye to the subject matter.
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« Reply #519 on: January 04, 2010, 03:36:21 PM »

thanks duece hopefully with more practice stuff like that will help with my shape sifting.

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« Reply #520 on: January 04, 2010, 07:05:02 PM »

Today has been a day for just sketching crap ... I seriously opend PS all day and scribbled something and took the painting from there. Sadly thats why all the proportions of that samuri thing came out weird as hell. But that was just fun working with the lighting. Anyways well i was setting stuff up I got lost in some of the junk I was making. Nothing special all about an hour for each.





This one actully came out alright.

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« Reply #521 on: January 05, 2010, 02:10:52 AM »





The only thing that bugs me about this one is that the foreground looks very realistic while the buildings in the background look two-dimensional. I assume that this was intentional, but it looks strange to me.
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« Reply #522 on: January 06, 2010, 09:34:33 PM »

Yeah I dont know I like it ... I was just trying to create some variation.

Well did this at work tonight.

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« Reply #523 on: January 06, 2010, 10:34:47 PM »

Infinity?
Not really feeling the composition... but it's not bad.
Have you ever tried making some brushes where you set the size or opacity jitter to 'fade'?
It's really good for having tapering brushstrokes, or brushstrokes that fade out (which I think is really nice for hair, or the edges of fur).
You could try to have some overlapping elements in these shapeshifting pieces,
with objects nearby saturated, and less saturated objects in the back. Andrew does that a lot iirc.

I was thinking how it would be cool if you would try to incorporate mythologic and historical patterns into it. You know, like Greek or Egyptian gods with geometric patterns and such? Just an idea.
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« Reply #524 on: January 06, 2010, 11:28:30 PM »

Yeah that sounds pritty cool. Mainly been trying to get Ideas rolling for live events that im going to start taking place at in the near future. I already have a ton of shapes but its great to find more ... thats the hard part. I sell my work locally when I print it for features and gallerys but the problem is if i use a shape that Is someone elts and they sue me I could never afford this to happen. If you have any shapes you have gotten or that you think would look good in this work by all means send them my way I would love to add them. Ive used fade slightly maybe Ill have to attempt useing it. I like the idea of the desaturated to saturated. I deff want to make this style one of my primarys ... I feel its a great way to capture much more spiritual things I like to express more so then just If I was to try and paint something ... I think its the element of caos. Either way I just started with a shape ... no intentions and this is what came out ... Its a little cramed and only really 2 layered ... but for 3 hours of work I learned how to paint some interesting heads and you cant deny if that was in the bottom left 1/4 of a painting with more to it ... It would make a great secondary focal point. Yet it is what it is and im learning so I find this painting to be a success.
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