Is Sarus a rhotic language?

[chrissomerry]

Hey all

I just joined tonight/this morning (I having a late night) because I've found my interest in this Sarus language growing (heard about it on the Solresol page on Wikipedia) and if I'm right chluaid's an Aussie so I have to show my support being one too
But one thing that got my attention is the pronunciation of the language - the rules are somewhat... Well, lax (at least compared to constructed languages like good ol' Esperanto). No problem except for one thing I couldn't figure out one thing:
Is Sarus rhotic like US or Irish English?

I guessed that coz Sarus sounds a bit like Irish with the whole latter symbols being heavily reduced, so I thought that maybe it would be a rhotic language. But then I wondered about all the English speakers who are lazy like me and don't have rhotic accent.

For those wondering what on earth I'm on about, well basically rhotic languages pronounce the 'R' in all positions (e.g. US English car = 'carrr' ). A non-rhotic language just gets rid of it or turns it into a vowel of some sort (e.g. Aussie English car = 'caaaah'). So how can a word like 'dr' in Sarus be pronounced? Is it ok to say it like 'daw' (e.g. non-rhotic 'door') or does the 'R' need to be stressed?

Cheers for any help with this, and sorry if my spelling/grammar/general writing skills are atrocious, waiting for something to install late at night

[Jaehl]

Pronunciation guide. Hope that helps.

[chrissomerry]

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Pronunciation guide. Hope that helps.

Cheers for that Jaehl, I had already had a look at that but I decided to reread it and reread some posts on this forum and figured I might as well just pronounce things as they look like they would be said in English (even if we Australians kind of skip the final R), e.g. 'dr' as 'door', or pronounce a schwa at the end of every R, e.g. 'dr' as 'dorruh'. I take it though that as long as you keep the pronunciation somewhat similar to the guides in the lessons everything should be ok?

[chluaid]

yeah that's fine to pronounce any final R with the schwa but preferable if it's without, e.g. dr = dor (pron. dor - as in dorothy)

[lightbitey]

yeah that's fine to pronounce any final R with the schwa but preferable if it's without, e.g. dr = dor (pron. dor - as in dorothy)

I always pronounce the final schwa when there is another solfege of the same kind following. i.e.df flt would be Dofə falət
is this ok?

[chluaid]

yep that's the general rule, but when you're having a conversation with someone who's also experienced in Sarus, the schwa pronunciation may not be necessary to split the words, as experience and context may be more forgiving and allow some flexibility. Generally, it's up to how you feel comfortable saying it but just bear in mind that a stopped consonant was designed to indicate the end of a word, and a fully pronounced prime syllable was designed to indicatate the beginning. Schwa was designed to be everything in the middle (apart from your example of 'enunciating' words that are in danger of melting into one).

[lightbitey]

yep that's the general rule, but when you're having a conversation with someone who's also experienced in Sarus, the schwa pronunciation may not be necessary to split the words, as experience and context may be more forgiving and allow some flexibility. Generally, it's up to how you feel comfortable saying it but just bear in mind that a stopped consonant was designed to indicate the end of a word, and a fully pronounced prime syllable was designed to indicatate the beginning. Schwa was designed to be everything in the middle (apart from your example of 'enunciating' words that are in danger of melting into one).

I guess I would have like an accent of a sort if I pronounced the schwa all the time.

[chrissomerry]

yeah that's fine to pronounce any final R with the schwa but preferable if it's without, e.g. dr = dor (pron. dor - as in dorothy)

Cheers mate for the answer! (and sorry for the month-late gratitude - I got distracted by uni stuff, work etc)

I guess I would have like an accent of a sort if I pronounced the schwa all the time.

For some reason, I can't help but feel that pronouncing schwas all the time sounds a bit Scottish, maybe it's because of the way spoken Scottish Gaelic (or Gàidhlig) sounds to me compared to spoken Irish Gaelic (Gaeilge).

[Halowood]

I could have sworn Sarus was actually an erotic language.