what can YOU recommend?

[MateZ]

I've been thinking should i pick ToonBoom Studio or Flash CS3?
What are differences between these two?

[chluaid]

ToonBoom studio is cheaper (around $350 ish last I checked). Both are capable of amazing stuff but there are pros and cons with each. If you're going primarily for browser-based web delivery, you should use Flash IMO, because it's built especially for the web. ToonBoom Studio is capable of .swf export but there's no actionscript capability and not every cool effect can export successfully to .swf

If you intend to create movies for broadcast, DVD or even web video, then you can't go far wrong with ToonBoom Studio. In fact, if you want to make movies for the web in video formats (instead of .swf) then ToonBoom Studio might be the way to go.

Basically, with the exception of actionscript, ToonBoom can do most things Flash can do, plus a bit more. Likewise Flash can do certain things better than ToonBoom. If I was just starting out, I'd go with Flash because the Newgrounds audience is the best exposure for a beginner (worked for me). Then again, you could go with ToonBoom and find your audience on YouTube.

Both have free trials, so trying them out will help you decide, but then you may eventually be using both, like me.. depending on the task.

[tyokio]

If I was just starting out, I'd go with Flash because the Newgrounds audience is the best exposure for a beginner (worked for me).

Its changed over the years, its really difficult getting attention on newgrounds these days, in the olden days I would upload my old newbee animations and they'd get something like 10,000 hits, I got a 40k one once. now I upload animations that are way superior to my old work and I can just about hit 2,000 which feels painful when these animations took months in comparison to my old animations which took about a week... though any exposure is good exposure I guess.

In my ideal studio I'd probaby use both toon boom and flash, for fbf animation flash is really awfull. I can make fbf animation in flash but it ends up making all my lines squiggly n stuff. In toon boom however you can hand draw your frames, import them to toon boom and vectorise the outlines which I think is an amazing feature for a traditional animator like myself.

[MateZ]

Can i put ToonBoom videos to Newgrounds with preloader or so on...?
But, ill check trials of both for while so i can decide. Thx.

[Markham]

Its changed over the years, its really difficult getting attention on newgrounds these days, in the olden days I would upload my old newbee animations and they'd get something like 10,000 hits, I got a 40k one once. now I upload animations that are way superior to my old work and I can just about hit 2,000 which feels painful when these animations took months in comparison to my old animations which took about a week... though any exposure is good exposure I guess.

Its been that way, more or less, at least since when I joined Summer 2004.  You only really get a lot of exposure if you score above 4.00 and/or get featured on the front page or get on the weekly top 20.  Still, the exposure is better than what the average person gets on YouTube.  Or at least from what I've seen of everyone else's videos.

[EDIT] I've checked my test videos from my digital cameras that I uploaded years ago.  They've gradually gotten more views over the last year, though the guy who took "The Sandwich Shop Ninja" and put that on has gotten only 1000 hits in the last year, while on Newgrounds it got 130 times more views.  So your small stuff will get more exposure, but your big projects will get significantly less unless you've acquired enough people watching your channel to give it the boost it needs to get more exposure  (DeviantArt seems to work the same way).  Though, if you've got both programs, you can export video with ToonBoom, import the video clip into Flash, and then upload it to Newgrounds.

[MateZ]

Though, if you've got both programs, you can export video with ToonBoom, import the video clip into Flash, and then upload it to Newgrounds.

So it's possible to do but if i do so am i able to use less tools/options of toonboom?

[Markham]

If you export to video and then import the video into Flash, you can use everything ToonBoom has to offer.  The file size will be larger, however.

[MateZ]

Okay. Thanks for tips. Ill think i do pick up flash.

[brickfilming]

ToonBoom animate is  expensive though. I have been experimenting with 2 D stop motion recently instead of flash and using a relatively inexpensive app called iKitMovie 

(http://www.ikitmovie.com )  I know this is the old fashion way of doing things but the output can be pumped in to any tool after to add to the finished product. Anyway thats my tu'pence worth.

I will post some of my results here soon.

Bye